experts only speak expert language to other experts... he's probably just dumbing it down a bit

as much as you poo poo it, when you think about it, he's right: I've noticed the same thing of my own accord. I use a dirt jump bike for everything pretty much, so no sitting down and that has forced me to sit a little more forward. My brother, is the complete opposite and stands with up with his back straight and his arms bent, he looks stupid and when I try the same position I feel unbalanced and struggle to pedal, pushing forward compresses the forks more aswell. ok so his demo isn't perfect, but you get the idea but obviously you still move around to balance the bike, and nobody's forcing you to have your arms locked, just a little straighter than the 60 to 90 degrees they are at when sitting. finally have you ever tried a) getting a mountain bike into a cycle trainer, b) standing up on one and feeling anything like stable, let alone pedalling whilst standing up (not too bad on a road bike but they are lighter, have narrower bars and fit the trainers better.

they're clearly happy with the amount of money it's making them and evidently their client base likes the way they work otherwise they would have changed it by now :L I guess they've decided not to risk mistakes from drastic changes when the current designs are doing just fine with a little bit of an update now and again.

I like it...